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              "claim": "Nebius extended its server depreciation schedule from four years to five this year even though its own deal pricing implies roughly 50 percent annual decay; customers that would not quit depreciating are what extended the bust twenty-five years ago.",
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              "claim": "Nebius's own disclosed terms show compute in backwardation: 20 to 25 million dollars per megawatt on one-to-three-year contracts against 40 to 50 million per megawatt for capacity of up to six months; buyers paying twice the rate for near-term use…",
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              "claim": "AI profitability is elusive while open-source and Chinese models deliver comparable results at a fraction of the cost, so data-center pricing faces a race to the bottom exactly as fiber optics did after 1999; then the bankruptcies reveal who was…",
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              "claim": "His own tripwire: hyperscaler free cash flow may go negative in 2027; leverage on speculative returns repels.",
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              "claim": "Three endings fit today's numbers: squeeze, triumph, or spreads just cheapen. Unsortable yet.",
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