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  "generatedAt": "2026-10-25T04:51:43Z",
  "disclaimer": "Analysis and opinion, not investment advice.",
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  "question": "Are the US and China building two separate AI markets, or only two markets for chips?",
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    "line": "Both capitals fence the chip, so it trades in two markets. The token is fenced only for national-security buyers and trades as one.",
    "conviction": 3,
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      "Read the H200 line in Nvidia's 10-Q after the Nov 18 results: under 1% of Data Center revenue means Beijing's gate is still shut.",
      "Check the Federal Register on Nov 9 and China's commerce ministry on Nov 10, not the communique: without a document, each pause lapses.",
      "Price a Chinese model on one cloud before trusting a tenfold gap: DeepSeek V4 Pro cost $0.20 per million tokens direct, $1.90 on Azure."
    ],
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      "Nvidia's 10-Q for the quarter to Oct 25 puts licensed H200 shipments to China at 1% or more of Data Center revenue.",
      "A law or rule bars Chinese-developed AI models from agencies beyond the Pentagon and the intelligence community by Mar 31, 2027.",
      "Chinese developers' share of OpenRouter text requests falls below 25% in the week of Jan 4, 2027, with no rule behind it."
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      "date": "2026-08-24",
      "url": "https://deepvaluecapitalbykyler.substack.com/p/alibaba-to-issue-10b-in-stock",
      "access": "paid",
      "answers": "Michael Spencer",
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      "dimension": "mechanism"
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        "version": 1,
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        "stance": "Two markets for chips, one for tokens",
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        "by": "DeepStack"
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        "version": 2,
        "date": "2026-10-25",
        "stance": "Two markets for chips, one for tokens",
        "tone": "split",
        "toneLabel": "Split",
        "conviction": 3,
        "convictionLabel": "Moderate",
        "line": "Both capitals fence the chip, so it trades in two markets. The token is fenced only for national-security buyers and trades as one.",
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      "date": "2026-11-09",
      "precision": "day",
      "event": "The Commerce Department's pause on its affiliates rule ends on paper: whether a Federal Register document extends it by that day. The truce announced on September 23 is not such a document.",
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        "rule": "Read the bureau's documents and the public inspection entries on federalregister.gov through November 9, 2026. The answer is yes if a document of the Bureau of Industry and Security that extends the one-year suspension published as Federal Register 2025-19846 beyond November 9, 2026, or leaves it in force without an end date, was published or placed on public inspection by the end of November 9, 2026; no if none was, including when officials announce an extension that no document carries by that day.",
        "question": "By November 9, 2026, does the Bureau of Industry and Security publish in the Federal Register, or place on public inspection there, a document extending the suspension of its affiliates rule beyond November 9, 2026?",
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          "label": "Federal Register, documents and public inspection of the Bureau of Industry and Security",
          "url": "https://www.federalregister.gov/agencies/industry-and-security-bureau"
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            "version": 1,
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            "by": "Marco Cauduro"
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          "baseRate": "Last year's suspension reached public inspection only on November 10, 2025, the day it took effect, and no bureau document carried an extension through October 12, 2026.",
          "outsideView": "Both suspensions in this Part lapse on paper a day apart in November, and the truce they belong to runs to January 10 by announcement, with no document from either capital extending them.",
          "wouldChange": "A bureau document placed on public inspection by November 9, which Miller Canfield expects to follow the announced truce, would raise the number."
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      "resultUrl": null
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          "name": "Oguz Erkan",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/oguz-erkan/",
          "claim": "The feared collapse scenario, where usage shifts to Chinese models, American lab revenues erode and the circular capex deals unwind, will not happen; with cost per intelligence so close, Western firms will avoid Chinese models for strategic and…",
          "date": "2026-07-19",
          "url": "https://www.capitalist-letters.com/p/kimi-3-ai-capex-apocalypse-or-a-buying",
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        {
          "name": "Oguz Erkan",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/oguz-erkan/",
          "claim": "The claim that Chinese labs found a genuine efficiency breakthrough American labs missed is dismissed as implausible, since it would require the best-resourced experts in Silicon Valley to have overlooked a fraction-of-the-cost method.",
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          "url": "https://www.capitalist-letters.com/p/kimi-3-ai-capex-apocalypse-or-a-buying",
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          "name": "Kevin Gee",
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          "claim": "China has spent five decades trying to become the world's leading superpower and is now the world's supplier, but has not yet successfully become the world's platform despite investing in overseas ventures, foreign aid, technology reverse…",
          "date": "2026-09-12",
          "url": "https://aletteraday.substack.com/p/from-supplier-to-platform-chinas",
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          "name": "Kevin Gee",
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          "claim": "The US government is betting that compute is the linchpin holding up the stack, making it the target of export controls, yet China is now building a full stack domestic to all layers.",
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          "url": "https://aletteraday.substack.com/p/from-supplier-to-platform-chinas",
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          "name": "James Bulltard",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/james-bulltard/",
          "claim": "China's advances in AI, exemplified by Deepseek, will likely force the US to increase investment and restrictions in AI rather than cut capex, because allowing China to lead would be strategically unacceptable.",
          "date": "2026-07-17",
          "url": "https://www.jamesbulltard.com/p/71726-recap",
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          "name": "Gaetano",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/gaetano/",
          "claim": "China controls a substantial portion of the upstream supply chain through InP substrate production and indium exports, which means if the U.S. pushes Chinese transceiver supply out faster than domestic replacements arrive, the U.S. risks slowing…",
          "date": "2026-08-05",
          "url": "https://gaetanoresearch.substack.com/p/trumps-chinese-optical-proposal-is",
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        },
        {
          "name": "Gaetano",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/gaetano/",
          "claim": "The main risk from a ban on Chinese optical suppliers is that Chinese suppliers represent such a large part of the optical market that a sudden restriction could worsen shortages and push out some data center deployments.",
          "date": "2026-08-05",
          "url": "https://gaetanoresearch.substack.com/p/viav-reports-tomorrow-will-it-follow",
          "access": "paid"
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        {
          "name": "Doomberg",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/doomberg/",
          "claim": "China is an objectively powerful country capable of inventing its way around semiconductor sanctions, and Huawei's announced chip-design framework that claims to deliver transistor densities equivalent to 1.4-nanometer-class chips by 2031 without…",
          "date": "2026-07-03",
          "url": "https://newsletter.doomberg.com/p/treatment-resistant",
          "access": "public"
        },
        {
          "name": "Doomberg",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/doomberg/",
          "claim": "The Pentagon's Office of Strategic Capital, led by David Lorch, has been structuring deals to de-risk US military supply chains from China's control, including work on battery materials, drone components, and rare-earth production.",
          "date": "2026-09-01",
          "url": "https://newsletter.doomberg.com/p/with-american-characteristics",
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        "name": "Stephen Clapham",
        "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/stephen-clapham/",
        "claim": "Moritz argued the technological baton is passing from the US to China, as it once passed from the UK to the US, pointing to China's competitive education system and ownership of critical technologies such as electric vehicles, batteries, solar and…",
        "date": "2026-09-13",
        "url": "https://behindthebalancesheet.substack.com/p/when-the-numbers-dont-add-up",
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        "answers": "Kevin Gee",
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        "dimension": "evidence"
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      "id": "one-market-for-the-token",
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          "name": "Prof G Markets",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/prof-g-markets/",
          "claim": "The Chinese open-weight model strategy is to deliver roughly 80% of a product's value at half the price, which Prof G Markets calls one of the most effective business models there is, and expects to become a geopolitical fight once Washington…",
          "date": "2026-07-20",
          "url": "https://www.profgmedia.com/p/openai-had-another-terrible-week",
          "access": "public"
        },
        {
          "name": "Michael Spencer",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/michael-spencer/",
          "claim": "Michael Spencer predicts Anthropic will achieve AI supremacy status in 2027 and by 2030 will have no comparable peer competitor, not Google, OpenAI, DeepSeek, or Alibaba.",
          "date": "2026-08-20",
          "url": null,
          "access": "paid"
        },
        {
          "name": "Michael Spencer",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/michael-spencer/",
          "claim": "U.S.-China model competition is exaggerating compute demand even though there are few strong application-layer products, while China holds both cheaper token generation and more abundant energy.",
          "date": "2026-07-21",
          "url": "https://www.ai-supremacy.com/p/the-open-source-ai-china-problem-revisited-mid-2026",
          "access": "public"
        },
        {
          "name": "Market Sentiment",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/market-sentiment/",
          "claim": "Open model weights being public and downloadable does not mean uniform pricing: running them still requires managing large GPU clusters and a software stack, and differences in that stack across providers (optimizing for price, latency, or…",
          "date": "2026-09-08",
          "url": "https://www.marketsentiment.co/p/notes-on-open-source",
          "access": "public"
        },
        {
          "name": "Market Sentiment",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/market-sentiment/",
          "claim": "Headline comparisons claiming open models are 10x cheaper often quote a cheaper, degraded-performance version of the open model, exaggerating the cost benefit; for example, Opus 5 can look ~20x more expensive than DeepSeek in such comparisons, but…",
          "date": "2026-09-08",
          "url": "https://www.marketsentiment.co/p/notes-on-open-source",
          "access": "public"
        },
        {
          "name": "Michael Burry",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/michael-burry/",
          "claim": "China is going through its Great Depression, has already hit the nadir, and consumer names like JD will catch a tailwind as the economy recovers.",
          "date": "2026-08-13",
          "url": null,
          "access": "licensed"
        },
        {
          "name": "Michael Burry",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/michael-burry/",
          "claim": "Current Nvidia GPU pricing reflects today's scarcity, but a duration mismatch—data centers taking 3-5 years to build while chips iterate into new generations with very different power and cooling requirements every 12-18 months—undermines any…",
          "date": "2026-09-19",
          "url": null,
          "access": "paid"
        }
      ],
      "against": {
        "name": "DeepValue Capital",
        "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/deepvalue-capital/",
        "claim": "Alibaba is well positioned to monetize its AI spend because it builds data centers efficiently, designs AI models to upsell users into already-profitable areas like cloud, ecommerce and quick commerce, benefits from more diversified and niche AI…",
        "date": "2026-08-24",
        "url": "https://deepvaluecapitalbykyler.substack.com/p/alibaba-to-issue-10b-in-stock",
        "access": "paid",
        "answers": "Michael Spencer",
        "relation": "contradicts",
        "dimension": "mechanism"
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      "id": "beijing-holds-the-other-end",
      "label": "Beijing Holds the Other End",
      "voices": [
        {
          "name": "Ren",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/ren/",
          "claim": "The FCC ban draft on Chinese optical transceivers does not create capacity but rather creates scarcity pricing for whoever already has it, unlike the 2001 telecom bust which was debt-financed carriers laying fiber for traffic that never arrived.",
          "date": "2026-08-14",
          "url": "https://renstocks.substack.com/p/inside-the-ai-interconnect-boom",
          "access": "paid"
        },
        {
          "name": "Ren",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/ren/",
          "claim": "Non-Chinese firms hold 80 to 90 percent of InP wafers and equipment, while China controls over 70 percent of indium and 80 percent of phosphorus, making a minerals decision in Beijing determine a transceiver price in Texas.",
          "date": "2026-08-14",
          "url": "https://renstocks.substack.com/p/inside-the-ai-interconnect-boom",
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        {
          "name": "Gaetano",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/gaetano/",
          "claim": "U.S. manufacturing has become a customer selection factor, with early customer feedback around Chinese transceiver restrictions making customers more aggressive about wanting U.S. manufactured supply.",
          "date": "2026-08-11",
          "url": "https://gaetanoresearch.substack.com/p/we-have-some-strong-signals-for-photonics",
          "access": "paid"
        },
        {
          "name": "Gaetano",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/gaetano/",
          "claim": "The Trump administration proposal should be understood as a negotiating tool ahead of a planned meeting with Xi rather than solely as a national security policy, because the timing aligns with trade discussions and China controls upstream materials…",
          "date": "2026-08-05",
          "url": "https://gaetanoresearch.substack.com/p/trumps-chinese-optical-proposal-is",
          "access": "paid"
        },
        {
          "name": "Baillie Gifford",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/baillie-gifford/",
          "claim": "China dominates rare earth extraction and processing into oxides, alloys and magnets, leaving the rest of the world's economies and militaries dependent on a resource Beijing can use as leverage in trade negotiations.",
          "date": "2026-09-01",
          "url": "https://fiscal.ai/fund-letters/baillie-gifford-q3-2026-fscl_document_2DDG3DJC920",
          "access": "public"
        },
        {
          "name": "Baillie Gifford",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/baillie-gifford/",
          "claim": "NVIDIA has experienced multiple drawdowns of 38% to 66% during the holding period, making it subject to severe cyclical drawdowns.",
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          "datePeriod": "Third-quarter 2026 letter",
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          "access": "public"
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        {
          "name": "Doomberg",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/doomberg/",
          "claim": "Western leaders do not adequately understand China's strategy in AI and semiconductors, nor do they appear capable of effectively responding to it.",
          "date": "2026-07-22",
          "url": null,
          "access": "public"
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        {
          "name": "Doomberg",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/doomberg/",
          "claim": "China's strategy in strategic industries follows a pattern of heavily subsidizing domestic champions until they acquire technology, then flooding global markets with competitively priced products to eliminate foreign competitors.",
          "date": "2026-07-22",
          "url": null,
          "access": "public"
        },
        {
          "name": "DeepValue Capital",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/deepvalue-capital/",
          "claim": "Alibaba is well positioned to monetize its AI spend because it builds data centers efficiently, designs AI models to upsell users into already-profitable areas like cloud, ecommerce and quick commerce, benefits from more diversified and niche AI…",
          "date": "2026-08-24",
          "url": "https://deepvaluecapitalbykyler.substack.com/p/alibaba-to-issue-10b-in-stock",
          "access": "paid"
        },
        {
          "name": "DeepValue Capital",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/deepvalue-capital/",
          "claim": "Consumer optimism in China is largely tied to real estate, which has been in a slump for years, depressing consumer sentiment.",
          "date": "2026-09-04",
          "url": null,
          "access": "paid"
        },
        {
          "name": "Stephen Clapham",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/stephen-clapham/",
          "claim": "Moritz argued the technological baton is passing from the US to China, as it once passed from the UK to the US, pointing to China's competitive education system and ownership of critical technologies such as electric vehicles, batteries, solar and…",
          "date": "2026-09-13",
          "url": "https://behindthebalancesheet.substack.com/p/when-the-numbers-dont-add-up",
          "access": "paid"
        },
        {
          "name": "Stephen Clapham",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/stephen-clapham/",
          "claim": "Dismissing China's technological progress as merely the product of subsidies, IP theft and cheap labour looks increasingly dangerous, whatever one's view of China as an investable market.",
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          "name": "Gaetano",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/gaetano/",
          "claim": "A Morgan Stanley note, based on conversations with a senior Washington telecom/FCC/export-control legal team, suggests a possible framework where a Chinese-built transceiver could still be allowed into the U.S. if roughly 65% of the module's value…",
          "date": "2026-10-02",
          "url": "https://gaetanoresearch.substack.com/p/big-optics-update-china-restrictions",
          "access": "paid"
        },
        {
          "name": "Gaetano",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/gaetano/",
          "claim": "A reported Trump administration ban on new Chinese data center components, specifically including optical transceivers, would create a test cycle on top of existing 800G and 1.6T volume cycles as U.S. hyperscalers qualify new suppliers and expand…",
          "date": "2026-08-05",
          "url": "https://gaetanoresearch.substack.com/p/viav-reports-tomorrow-will-it-follow",
          "access": "paid"
        },
        {
          "name": "Market Sentiment",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/market-sentiment/",
          "claim": "Azure sells DeepSeek; on equal quality, the gap is about 2x.",
          "date": null,
          "url": "https://www.marketsentiment.co/p/notes-on-open-source",
          "access": "public"
        },
        {
          "name": "Michael Spencer",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/michael-spencer/",
          "claim": "China has the cheaper tokens; Anthropic has no peer by 2030.",
          "date": null,
          "url": "https://www.ai-supremacy.com/p/the-open-source-ai-china-problem-revisited-mid-2026",
          "access": "public"
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    {
      "from": "Gaetano",
      "to": "Ren",
      "relation": "qualifies",
      "dimension": "evidence",
      "note": "Gaetano qualifies Ren on evidence."
    },
    {
      "from": "Michael Spencer",
      "to": "James Bulltard",
      "relation": "qualifies",
      "dimension": "mechanism",
      "note": "Michael Spencer qualifies James Bulltard on mechanism."
    },
    {
      "from": "Ren",
      "to": "Gaetano",
      "relation": "qualifies",
      "dimension": "mechanism",
      "note": "Ren qualifies Gaetano on mechanism."
    },
    {
      "from": "Gaetano",
      "to": "Ren",
      "relation": "qualifies",
      "dimension": "condition",
      "note": "Gaetano qualifies Ren on condition."
    },
    {
      "from": "Doomberg",
      "to": "Gaetano",
      "relation": "qualifies",
      "dimension": "condition",
      "note": "Doomberg qualifies Gaetano on condition."
    },
    {
      "from": "Stephen Clapham",
      "to": "Kevin Gee",
      "relation": "qualifies",
      "dimension": "condition",
      "note": "Stephen Clapham qualifies Kevin Gee on condition."
    },
    {
      "from": "Doomberg",
      "to": "Gaetano",
      "relation": "qualifies",
      "dimension": "mechanism",
      "note": "Doomberg qualifies Gaetano on mechanism."
    },
    {
      "from": "Doomberg",
      "to": "Oguz Erkan",
      "relation": "contradicts",
      "dimension": "evidence",
      "note": "Doomberg contradicts Oguz Erkan on evidence."
    },
    {
      "from": "Prof G Markets",
      "to": "Oguz Erkan",
      "relation": "contradicts",
      "dimension": "mechanism",
      "note": "Prof G Markets contradicts Oguz Erkan on mechanism."
    },
    {
      "from": "Kevin Gee",
      "to": "Baillie Gifford",
      "relation": "qualifies",
      "dimension": "condition",
      "note": "Kevin Gee qualifies Baillie Gifford on condition."
    },
    {
      "from": "Gaetano",
      "to": "Doomberg",
      "relation": "qualifies",
      "dimension": "condition",
      "note": "Gaetano qualifies Doomberg on condition."
    },
    {
      "from": "Kevin Gee",
      "to": "Stephen Clapham",
      "relation": "contradicts",
      "dimension": "evidence",
      "note": "Kevin Gee contradicts Stephen Clapham on evidence."
    },
    {
      "from": "Baillie Gifford",
      "to": "Doomberg",
      "relation": "qualifies",
      "dimension": "condition",
      "note": "Baillie Gifford qualifies Doomberg on condition."
    },
    {
      "from": "Michael Burry",
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      "label": "The thread",
      "text": "Part 12 found one market for the token. Part 18 goes down the stack and asks where the fence is written, and by whom."
    }
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    {
      "id": null,
      "when": "November 9",
      "date": "2026-11-09",
      "event": "The Commerce Department's pause on its affiliates rule ends on paper: whether a Federal Register document extends it by that day. The truce announced on September 23 is not such a document.",
      "status": "pending",
      "url": "https://deepstack.ltd/stories/the-fence-stops-at-the-chip/#watch"
    },
    {
      "id": null,
      "when": "November 18",
      "date": "2026-11-18",
      "event": "Nvidia reports its quarter to October 25, 2026: whether its 10-Q puts licensed H200 shipments to China at 1% or more of Data Center revenue, after less than 1% in the quarter to July 26.",
      "status": "pending",
      "url": "https://deepstack.ltd/stories/the-fence-stops-at-the-chip/#watch"
    },
    {
      "id": null,
      "when": "December 31",
      "date": "2026-12-31",
      "event": "Whether the FCC's Covered List carries an entry for optical transceivers or modules, after its October 9, 2026 update left them off.",
      "status": "pending",
      "url": "https://deepstack.ltd/stories/the-fence-stops-at-the-chip/#watch"
    },
    {
      "id": null,
      "when": "March 31, 2027",
      "date": "2027-03-31",
      "event": "Whether a law or a Federal Register rule bars agencies beyond the Pentagon and the intelligence community from Chinese-developed AI models; the defense act of December 2025 reaches only those buyers and their contractors.",
      "status": "pending",
      "url": "https://deepstack.ltd/stories/the-fence-stops-at-the-chip/#watch"
    }
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    "approvedOn": "2026-10-13",
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      {
        "id": "the-fence-holds-and-climbs",
        "label": "The Fence Holds and Climbs",
        "voices": 9,
        "lead": [
          {
            "name": "Oguz Erkan",
            "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/oguz-erkan/",
            "date": "2026-07-19",
            "url": "https://www.capitalist-letters.com/p/kimi-3-ai-capex-apocalypse-or-a-buying",
            "line": "With the cost per unit of intelligence this close, Western firms will avoid Chinese models for strategic and regulatory reasons, so usage will not drain from American labs."
          },
          {
            "name": "Kevin Gee",
            "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/kevin-gee/",
            "date": "2026-09-12",
            "url": "https://aletteraday.substack.com/p/from-supplier-to-platform-chinas",
            "line": "After five decades of trying, China is the world's supplier but has not yet become the world's platform."
          },
          {
            "name": "James Bulltard",
            "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/james-bulltard/",
            "date": "2026-07-17",
            "url": "https://www.jamesbulltard.com/p/71726-recap",
            "line": "China's advances in AI, DeepSeek among them, will push Washington to invest and restrict more rather than cut back, because letting China lead is strategically unacceptable."
          }
        ],
        "against": {
          "name": "Sir Michael Moritz, as relayed by Stephen Clapham",
          "entity": null,
          "date": "2026-09-13",
          "url": "https://behindthebalancesheet.substack.com/p/when-the-numbers-dont-add-up",
          "line": "The technological baton is passing from the US to China, as it once passed from Britain to America, on the strength of electric vehicles, batteries, solar and China's schools.",
          "why": "This side holds that China supplies the world without yet leading it. Moritz reads the same factories as the lead already passing east."
        }
      },
      {
        "id": "one-market-for-the-token",
        "label": "One Market for the Token",
        "voices": 7,
        "lead": [
          {
            "name": "Prof G Markets",
            "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/prof-g-markets/",
            "date": "2026-07-20",
            "url": "https://www.profgmedia.com/p/openai-had-another-terrible-week",
            "line": "China's open-weight strategy delivers about 80% of a product's value at half the price, one of the most effective business models there is, and a geopolitical fight once Washington grasps it."
          },
          {
            "name": "Market Sentiment",
            "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/market-sentiment/",
            "date": "2026-09-08",
            "url": "https://www.marketsentiment.co/p/notes-on-open-source",
            "line": "Public weights do not make one price: DeepSeek's own service sold DeepSeek V4 Pro at $0.20 per million tokens and Azure sold the same weights at $1.90, for lower latency and higher accuracy."
          },
          {
            "name": "Michael Spencer",
            "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/michael-spencer/",
            "date": "2026-07-21",
            "url": "https://www.ai-supremacy.com/p/the-open-source-ai-china-problem-revisited-mid-2026",
            "line": "China holds both the cheaper tokens and the more abundant energy, while the US-China model race inflates estimates of compute demand."
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          "name": "Oguz Erkan",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/oguz-erkan/",
          "date": "2026-07-19",
          "url": "https://www.capitalist-letters.com/p/kimi-3-ai-capex-apocalypse-or-a-buying",
          "line": "Western firms will avoid Chinese models for strategic and regulatory reasons, however close the cost per unit of intelligence.",
          "why": "DeepStack judged Erkan and Prof G Markets a direct contradiction on whether Western buyers take the discount; he says they will not."
        }
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      {
        "id": "beijing-holds-the-other-end",
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        "lead": [
          {
            "name": "Ren",
            "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/ren/",
            "date": "2026-08-14",
            "url": "https://renstocks.substack.com/p/inside-the-ai-interconnect-boom",
            "line": "Firms outside China hold most of the indium phosphide wafers and equipment, but China controls most of the indium and phosphorus, so a minerals decision in Beijing sets a transceiver price in Texas."
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          {
            "name": "Baillie Gifford",
            "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/baillie-gifford/",
            "date": "2026-09-01",
            "url": "https://fiscal.ai/fund-letters/baillie-gifford-q3-2026-fscl_document_2DDG3DJC920",
            "line": "China dominates rare-earth extraction and processing into oxides, alloys and magnets, which leaves other economies and militaries dependent on leverage Beijing can use in trade talks."
          },
          {
            "name": "Ren",
            "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/ren/",
            "date": "2026-08-14",
            "url": "https://renstocks.substack.com/p/inside-the-ai-interconnect-boom",
            "line": "The FCC's draft ban on Chinese optical transceivers adds no capacity; it hands scarcity pricing to whoever already has supply."
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        ],
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          "name": "Doomberg",
          "entity": "https://deepstack.ltd/people/doomberg/",
          "date": "2026-09-01",
          "url": "https://newsletter.doomberg.com/p/with-american-characteristics",
          "line": "The Pentagon's Office of Strategic Capital is structuring deals to move military supply chains for battery materials, drone parts and rare earths away from China.",
          "why": "This side says China's grip on minerals and parts raises American costs first. The Pentagon is already financing supply that does not run through China."
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        "term": "FCC",
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      {
        "term": "InP",
        "expansion": "Indium phosphide, the substrate of the lasers in optical transceivers."
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